|  Break-Da-Chains | Feb 14, 2007 5:13pm | Hello:
I'm curious how successful the following approach to reversing nite-owlism is:
Keep going to sleep later and later till you go around the clock and reach the sought after bedtime and wake time . Stop the process at that point and:
Voila...
You can get up at 7AM if you need to.
Anyone have success with this approach? |
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 |  561019 | Feb 14, 2007 5:14pm | | Not for me do it pretty often actually.I always end up back on nights. |
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| | Break-Da-Chains | Feb 14, 2007 6:38pm | Thanks Rose.
Have you ever tried doing it very gradually? I know the usual method of chronotherapy advises ~3 hour forward shift daily. But could it be that a much more gradual shift might be longer lasting and actually resets the circadian rhythm in a more long lasting manner? |
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| | 561019 | Feb 20, 2007 2:43pm | | Yes tried that but after 3 or 4 weeks Im back on nights |
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Sponsor |  rivalarrival | Feb 20, 2007 3:06pm | I find that all I have to do to get on a days-awake, nights asleep schedule is to sleep in a tent for a week or so. Using a set-back thermostat that lets the night time indoor temperature drop - a LOT - then knocks it back up a little before sunrise also helps. Also, switching off indoor lighting at sunset, and turning off TV, Radio, and putting down the books at sunset also help me, personally. I use high-lux daylight bulbs in the ceiling and floor lamps during the day, and low wattage incandescents (25 and 40 watt) bulbs in desktop and table lamps until shortly after dusk
Going around the clock, as you suggest, I end up going to bed between 3 AM and 8 AM, waking up at noon, and I'm completely exhausted and unable to function during the day. Eventually, I accidentally fall asleep during the late afternoon/early evening, sleep at least 12 hours, and completely ruin the forward shift I was going for. |
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Sponsor | | cynthia-nekomata | Apr 7, 2007 5:12pm | | Well, I'm not ever going to be in it for permanent change, but I seem to be fine just going insomniac until it's time to rest later that day, but again that's only for once-in-a-while, only-need-it-for-one-day things. |
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|  vto80 | Apr 16, 2007 8:51am | I do it too often enough... but if I haven't got a compelling reason to continue waking up in the morning, I'll eventually lapse back in night owl-mode.
Something I noticed... the hours around 4 or 5 am are 'special' in some way. If I wake up at that time, i don't even need coffee. And if I try to go to sleep, i'm guaranteed to fail, at least until 6-7 am. |
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|  Anndaluz | Jul 12, 2007 10:58am | I've had to do this a lot; especially the past year. My experience is that you feel awful late morning/afternoon (on the day after) better but not good in the evening..........a lot better as the evening wears on, oooh you're feeling great, only problem is it's after midnight. So you still go to bed late but at least you do get some sleep: if you have to get up early the day after its not been enough and you don't feel that good that day. I'm looking for an alternative.
Re. the article 8, I thought everyone had a circadian clock set to about 25 hours for some complicated evolutionary reason involving seasons which I don't understand. But I do think we're probably some genetic minority. |
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